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Outsider: Terran Heavy Cruiser by AriochIV Outsider: Terran Heavy Cruiser by AriochIV
Sized-up "correct color" image of the cruiser from page 95 of Outsider.
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MonsterousOperandi Featured By Owner Nov 14, 2015  Student Digital Artist
I agree, this is one of your best!
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Deviator101 Featured By Owner Nov 7, 2015
This is probably my favorite ship.
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Deviator101 Featured By Owner Oct 24, 2015
You know if the railguns could be suitably upgraded, ehanced, evolvec, whatever, they could be real game changers in a fire fight.
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AriochIV Featured By Owner Oct 24, 2015   Digital Artist
The mass drivers are dangerous, but can only achieve a hit at very close range.
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Deviator101 Featured By Owner Edited Oct 24, 2015
What about improvements in targeting software? I know from Mass Effect that at some point a targets ability to manaver trumps an attackers ability to hit it, but a the speeds at which raigun slugs leave the barral are obscence. Surely something could be done to achieve a better kill ratio.
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AriochIV Featured By Owner Oct 25, 2015   Digital Artist
The problem is range. The major combatants in Outsider have beam weapons that can strike at distances up to 300 megameters, and accelerate at 30 gravities. Even the highest-velocity rail gun projectiles will take several minutes to cross that distance, and will have no hope of achieving a hit against a maneuvering target. Targeting software won't help; the projectile is in flight for so long that the target can actually see it coming and move out of the way. The only projectiles that have a chance of hitting a target at such distances are those that can accelerate faster than the target, and that's where torpedoes come in.
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MajorDiarrhia Featured By Owner Nov 11, 2015
Why not fire guided missiles or kill vehicles from the guns so the guns are a first stage and the shell gets terminal correction? The time to contact would be relatively quite long, but its effective range versus a mobile platform would exceed any beam weapon. The munitions can be armed with casaba howitzers with a kind of shotgun shell plate added on. It breaks into millions of pellets and they can theoretically achieve a speed of 10,000 km/s.

www.projectrho.com/public_html…

You could go further and have antimatter triggered fusion warheads pumping x-ray laser rods. Each one would only need a microgram or less of antimatter, or just use a good old fission trigger. If they're fired from guns too then it makes for a good way to get the bombs clear of the ship instead of using missiles which are bulky.
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AriochIV Featured By Owner Nov 11, 2015   Digital Artist
Even at a velocity of 10,000 km/s, a projectile still takes 30 seconds to cross maximum beam range of 300 megameters. That's a lot of time for the target to move out of the way.

Railguns have to subject the projectile to a fantastic amount of energy in a very short time; it will be a challenge to construct rugged projectiles that are not vaporized by this energy. So while it might seem like a good idea to launch a complex missile as a railgun projectile, this may not be possible.
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MajorDiarrhia Featured By Owner Nov 14, 2015
Gun launch is just a way to make the missile more efficient, letting the missile carry a little less fuel yet get better acceleration or have more left for terminal corrections. The majority of acceleration can be done by the missile portion mid-flight, avoiding the issue of an over energetic first stage launch.
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Deviator101 Featured By Owner Oct 22, 2015
Weapons payload?
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AriochIV Featured By Owner Oct 22, 2015   Digital Artist
The weapons loadouts for all of the classes are listed here: well-of-souls.com/outsider/fle…
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Deviator101 Featured By Owner Oct 22, 2015
Very helpful. But no starfighters I take it?
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AriochIV Featured By Owner Oct 22, 2015   Digital Artist
Nope.
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Deviator101 Featured By Owner Oct 24, 2015
Does the TCA have fighter class ships?
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AriochIV Featured By Owner Oct 24, 2015   Digital Artist
They have unmanned defense drones.
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Deviator101 Featured By Owner Oct 24, 2015
Unmanned defense drones are a joke. I hope earth does build fighters of their own, but I guess thats up to you, the story teller. By the way my statement of the drones was meant as a statement of usefulness. For tasks such as air or in this case space superiority manned platforms are superior.
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Deviator101 Featured By Owner Oct 22, 2015
Well at least we got some good cruisers. This the biggest and best earth has or are their larger classes?
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AriochIV Featured By Owner Oct 22, 2015   Digital Artist
These are the largest warships that humanity had at the time of Alex's departure.
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Deviator101 Featured By Owner Oct 22, 2015
They look pretty tough. But I understand that humanity's fleet is small.
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wellis Featured By Owner Jan 10, 2016
Not just that but humanity's fleet is also completely outdated in comparison to the Loroi Alliance & Umiak Hierarchy's fleets. IIRC both combatants are 2-3 generations ahead in tech.

To use a comparison, the Loroi were using laser weapons like Humanity is using close to 900 years ago.
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MalletMann Featured By Owner Feb 11, 2015
Some of the turrets look a little low-coverage; specifically, the big ones don't seem to be able to point upwards, at least not very much.
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acerr85 Featured By Owner Jan 13, 2014
Awesome
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BrutalityInc Featured By Owner Dec 20, 2013
Nice cruiser. Too bad that given the current circumstances, between the Loroi and the Umiak, Humanity is pretty much screwed. 
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CrimsonFALKE Featured By Owner Nov 15, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Is it fair to say humans may turn the tide of the war?
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bastler Featured By Owner Dec 17, 2013
How would they do that based on their tiny fleet?
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CrimsonFALKE Featured By Owner Dec 18, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Human aid might not have anything to do with the ships on hand.
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bastler Featured By Owner Dec 18, 2013
Well there is only soo much you can do with quality against quantity.
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CrimsonFALKE Featured By Owner Dec 18, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Humans could probably start production aid. That would certainly help a great deal.
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bastler Featured By Owner Dec 18, 2013
Well with 6 worlds this might be difficult. Personally I think the fact that humans can not be read telepathically might play a role.

I am glad arioch has steady orders, as those pay the rent and keep the family fed. But 1 update in a whole year is unfortunate.
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CrimsonFALKE Featured By Owner Dec 18, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I call that "Human Stealth" not much of a name to it, and the 6 worlds could sever as construction sites. If the Shells have no idea where they are then that could also benefit the war. Also what if human ships share the same 'stealth' as Alex, that would certainly help the war effort and I am sure the America here could easily be upgraded weapon wise. 
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bastler Featured By Owner Dec 18, 2013
Well they seem to detect ships by detecting the crews. Also up to now we have no indication that that Käfer use telepathy?
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AriochIV Featured By Owner Nov 15, 2013   Digital Artist
It's probably best not to reveal how the story ends.
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CrimsonFALKE Featured By Owner Nov 15, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
sorry 
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CrimsonFALKE Featured By Owner Oct 28, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Nice work although it seems small for a cruiser, then again the Russians build all of my universes cruisers 
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psiandco Featured By Owner Oct 20, 2013  Student Writer
I will revise my technology comments as a fan article and submit it on your comic page forum.
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psiandco Featured By Owner Oct 13, 2013  Student Writer
I almost forgot something; two words. BALL LIGHTNING. Laboratories have observed electrical discharge from water that was charged way beyond its capacitance. So, do plasma weapons work in an atmosphere?

the answer is yes.

Lasers, Masers, X-ray beams, electron lasers, cyclotron particle beams, plasma bolts, rail guns, even "oxygen fed" chain guns all are doable.
There are rumors of something called "Shaped Nuclear charge" which focuses all of the power of a thermonuclear explosion into a narrow stream...

one concern for spacecraft though is weapon recoil. weapons that fling a mass should be directly hard point mounted to fire on a straight line that passes directly through the center of mass of a space ship; even better if said kinetic weapon is a spinal weapon. otherwise accumulating kinetic energy begins to damage the ship, and the pilot will have to fight to keep control of the ship.

oh yeah, a new set of weapons: the rattler.
Imagine a gravity wave projector designed to fire a narrow coherent beam, like a laser, but this is gravity. Sounds like a tractor beam, or a repulsor beam, or even a deflector shield array, but this is actually purely a weapon. The beam applies obscenely intense gravitational force  at a pin point spot, then switches to anti-gravity, then back again to gravity.... this kind of alternation thousands of times per each second fired.

The Rattler is a particularly dreaded weapon as it begins to shred the ship's hull with raw gravity/anti-gravity pulses and the kinetic effects start vibrating the ship and its contents...
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psiandco Featured By Owner Oct 13, 2013  Student Writer
also of interest is that a mobile reactor was made to respond to disasters by restoring power to a community quickly.
In turn, some one else is building Mini-fridge sized reactors.
Someone else designed a tiny bead sized reactor (possibly based off of a tritium atomic battery).
Anywho, 2-d nano materials are changing energy technologies: Highly effiecent solar sheets, hydrogen fuel cells, even a micro "blended liquid salt reactor" wrapped in thermionic films. On the last item, imagine if you could turn heat directly into electrical energy you can use - Imagine a nuclear reactor without water tanks, coolant  pipes, boiler, compressor, turbines, govenor gears, and power generator...

If you can imagine it, a 5 megawatt power plant the size of a Rubick's cube; only this one won't be a hoax like the "KUBE X-15"....

and there you go, descriptions of the hows and whys of futuristic technologies; Power, sensors, in ship gravity, landing ship anti-gravity (flying cars), deflector shields, tractor beams, thrusters, limited "self repairing" hull, and more.
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psiandco Featured By Owner Oct 13, 2013  Student Writer
oh yeah, some guy took a few hundred cellphones apart for the camera chips which he assembled in a hemisphere shape. Guess what?
He had over one gigabit resolution. now, imagine using these small silvery hemispheres for multi-spectrum sensing: thermal, infra red, visible light, uv light. add a "Spoiler" to a space ship not beacuse of areodynamics or "Swoosh" looking faster, but such a structure could be a radio telescope, microwave sensor, radiation sensor, radar and Ladar.
 ***Regardless I wouldn't have persons watching the sensors, you would need a powerful computer with an AGENT program to analyze and track everything you are detecting. As computer programs can only report what is detected, sensors do not make "PREDICTIONS".
 A D-Wave quantum computer (*or something like it*) with a solid anayltic suite would probably be quite vital for astro-navigation.

I have to point out that there are two basic categories of "Sensor".
***Passive - the stuff comes to you for detection; light, heat, radio waves, radiation, magnetism, gravity,
***ACTIVE - You send out a signal and observe it as it travels or how it returns to you. Radar, Ladar, Gas spectrometry laser,

For stealth, you want all ACTIVE sensors off.
Generally if you are an E-war ship yoru job is to: intercept, decrypt, manipulate enemy signals. also to tamper with the enemy sensors, confuse them, create many false images, even render them completely "Blind", "Deaf", and "dumb".
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psiandco Featured By Owner Oct 13, 2013  Student Writer
another concept I would like to pitch your way is Gel and foam for spacecraft.
Imagine that the walls ceilings and floors have pipes for air and water, cables (power transmission, antenna, data cable, even "full length of ship sensor cables") internal sensors, internal security, internal communication, fire suppression, life support, damage sensors, humidifiers and condensers, and more. still that leaves a lot of empty space.
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You need sound proofing, you need insulation, you need a barrier to radiation; enter pressurized gel. This gel reacts to heat, by foaming and expanding into a thick hard layer. Hull punctures, cracking, even rips can be automatically sealed by the reacting gel.
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Civilian space craft might not be colossal steel monoliths; but a small Skeleton with all the tech anchored to it and bathtub like interior walls and fixtures, while the hull is pressure gel sprayed on the outside. The outer surface is allowed to foam and expand into a cellophane mold.

With antigravity enabling slow and safe "RE-enrty" many spacecraft don't go through the added expense of getting ceramic/carbonfiber thermal armor.
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psiandco Featured By Owner Oct 12, 2013  Student Writer
Is there a detailed page on the outsider universe's prevalence of gravity technology?
Does gravity technology play a role in in-system not as fast as light drives?
Could onboard gravity technology help improve the safety of hyperspace jumps?
Could an onboard gravity system help you to return to normal space, even without a stellar gravity well?
With a sufficent gravity technology, a safe warp drive may be achievable: one current experimental breakthrough propulsion system (the MACH EFFECT THRUSTER) has recently received peer review and independent confirmation. The main N.A.S.A. scientist involved in this project has hinted at the possibility of a warp speed of approximately one light day per second, or about one light year in six minutes, or a six light year cruise just over an hour...
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AriochIV Featured By Owner Oct 13, 2013   Digital Artist
There is a ship systems page in the works that describes, among other things, the power and drive systems. No current ETA on that.

Some kind of gravity manipulation technology is required for jump drive, both to create the transition to hyperspace, and to prevent the ships and crew from being destroyed by it. But I don't envision it as a viable propulsion technology, at least at the technological level of the major combatants.
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psiandco Featured By Owner Oct 13, 2013  Student Writer
okay, imagine an L.E.D. a tiny electronic component that works like a light bulb.
Keep this in mind as I take you on this little tour.
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There are fundamental forces in physics; there are particular oddities about the weakness of gravity, but that is for another time. Electromagnetic force is 1X10^32  stronger than gravity.
There are theories that imply, show, and prove conversion of one force into another.

Thus if your teeny tiny electronic part could convert a portion of EM force into G- (*even at a greatly reduced efficiency than a ratio of1x10^32), you would get a rather astonishing effect!

 (*Indeed, converting a few sparks of neural energy into gravitic force could explain "Psychokinesis". arguably much easier to produce a few ions from grey matter than a few megawatts, yes? further, magnetism affects only magnetic materials - Gravity affects everything that has mass [hinting at a relationship between Gravitation, mass, and inertia]*)

Thus ship board gravity and gravity based inertial compensation become very possible- no mammoth machines, no massive reactors, no obscene jovian quanities of "Fuel" or exotic negative mass unobtainium. Several scientists point out that a Localized Gravity Zone (Or LGZ) applied to a ship would greatly mitigate or remove inertia.
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How do you get propulsion from a gravity wave projector? Gravity obeys the inverse square rule, and always acts from the center of a mass along a straight line to the center of another mass. That means all forces are in balance on a stationary object...
What does the gravity wave projector do? it allows us to place a gravity like effect that is *NOT* acting from the center of a mass. Thus an imbalance, and the stationary object Moves. Gravity projectors can also be used for ANTI-Gravity.
Various designs of gravity wave projector can be your insystem thrusters for AU (Astro units) speeds, LD (Lunar distance) Speeds, tractor beams, deflector shields, possibly even your "Refractive cloak".
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How is this not a "Reactionless thruster"?
1. a submarine doesn't carry tanks of water to squirt against the propeller, the submarine turns the propeller against the "Water" that is already there...
2. the use of this device does not create thrust; not anymore than a skier at the top of mountain has only muscle power to get to the bottom.
3. Perpetual motion, overunity, and other physics breaking absurdities are "Scientifically impossible".
4. the device is not a closed system and can't be used in this manner.
5. the effect is akin to opening a window to a breeze to blow on a boat sail. The Effect of gravity is accessing an OUTSIDE force.

This means when you use the gravity projector  to put wind in your sails... you discover the F20 tornado that has always been waiting outside.
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FTL Warp metrics; creating a warp bubble
Bending the fabric of space is a loophole around the Speed of light.
you technically might not be moving, when you are traveling at warp.
Thus you aren't actually going "FASTER", you are taking a short cut to cheat a way through the distance.
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Shaping a warp field to best serve a star ship is akin the science of aerodynamics and is thus named "Warp dynamics".
A warp field can serve to deflect debris from a spacecrafts path as the field may resemble a boat wake, only projected *Ahead* of the boat (*as well as around the boat). Obviously, objects of equal mass or less than than your space craft are pushed aside.
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Can you ram a planet with a ship at FTL warp?
no. Anything with a larger gravity field will defeat a warp bubble. This is why a ship that is affected by a tractor beam can not go to warp. This why there is no "Insystem" FLT. If you want to generate a warp bubble you need to move your spaceship to a Lagrange point.
You may ask, "What about energy accumulation?" and I ask in turn, "can you stand in the same river twice?"
Yes particles of mater and energy can enter a warp field, but they roll out away with the area of space that expands back to normal behind your star-ship. So no gamma burst of cosmic death when you come to a stop.

Oddly enough, Warp drive may resemble your "hyperspace" concepts very, very, very, much; but still be an alternate method of FTL travel... saddly warp travel is SLOWER than Hyperspace, but it has the added extras of exploring the "Dark" between Solar systems and none of the hazards of hyperspace.
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Tzoli Featured By Owner Jun 24, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Great work!

Did I see some resemblance to Homeworld 2?
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Mizu-Kami-Kuusouka Featured By Owner Jun 20, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
This is amazingly done!
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AriochIV Featured By Owner Jun 20, 2013   Digital Artist
Thanks!
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ANDY1701A Featured By Owner Mar 20, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Awesome!
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TranquilRuins Featured By Owner Mar 14, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Very good!
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MedronPryde Featured By Owner Feb 22, 2013
I'm a big fan of your compic, and this is a VERY nice ship design...:)
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Devastator200 Featured By Owner Feb 5, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
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My corvette can take this on.
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08-Phoenix-80 Featured By Owner Jan 20, 2013
A beautiful ship. It has just the right mix of utilitarian and "homeworldish" design elements to come off as an
interesting starship.
Even though this cylindrical structure on the underside of the vessel intrigues me. What is it?
A Wave Motion Gun!? :D
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